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Salty Podcast #62 ⚓️ @Sailing_with_Phoenix Arrives in Hawaii! 🌺 What's next?

• Captain Tinsley | Oliver of Sailing with Phoenix • Season 1 • Episode 62

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What drives someone with zero ocean experience to sail 2,500 miles across the Pacific alone with just a cat as crew? Oliver's remarkable journey from Oregon to Hawaii captivated millions, transforming him from an unknown sailor with a few thousand followers into a viral sensation greeted as a hero upon his arrival in Waikiki.

The raw authenticity of his story resonates deeply with people seeking inspiration in their own lives. "I think everybody's kind of at this breaking point," Oliver reflects, "but I just went all in and went for it." This simple decision to pursue something meaningful despite overwhelming odds struck a chord with viewers worldwide who saw themselves in his struggles and triumphs.

His crossing wasn't without terrifying moments. When his rudder failed during 38-knot winds, locking hard to starboard and putting his boat beam to the seas, Oliver faced what could have been a catastrophic situation. "The lifelines were going into the water, coming out of the water," he recalls of the violent motion. With remarkable resourcefulness, he managed temporary repairs using lashing until calmer conditions allowed for proper fixes. Other challenges included getting trapped in a locker when the boat heeled (escaping only because he had a wrench with him) and learning to manage daily life at sea with his feline companion Phoenix, who adapted beautifully to become "a walking gimbal" navigating the boat better than her human.

Perhaps most surprising was Oliver's admission that he felt a certain melancholy upon reaching land. After weeks alone with just his thoughts and the vast ocean, the transition to instant fame was jarring. "I felt like I sailed through a wormhole and arrived into a different universe," he says of the flotilla that greeted him, including the coast guard and traditional canoes. Despite now having millions of followers, he remains humble and focused on the journey ahead—exploring Hawaii before continuing to French Polynesia in March, with plans to eventually circumnavigate the globe.

Want to follow Oliver's continuing adventures? Subscribe to his channels and join the millions of people finding inspiration in his willingness to chase dreams despite fear, inexperience, and uncertainty. As one viewer commented, "Being yourself, as awkward as you might think you are, is what draws me to watch."

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Capn Tinsley:

Good evening. How do you cross the Pacific solo with a cat and come out more famous than ever? Today's guest, oliver of Sailing with Phoenix, just did exactly that From Oregon to Hawaii, over 2,500 miles alone at sea, with his sweet kitty, phoenix, as his only crew. Since then his journey has exploded, with over 2 million followers on Instagram and a hero's welcome in Waikiki. We're jumping into the real story behind the crossing, the viral fame and what's next as he sets his sight on sailing around the world. But first I ask that you please, please, please, like and subscribe and share. It really helps me bring you more incredible sailing stories. I'm Captain Tinsley of sailing vessels Salty Abandoned and Island Packet 320, and this is the Salty Podcast, episode 62. And for the third time on the Salty Podcast.

Capn Tinsley:

Welcome Oliver and sweet little.

Capn Tinsley:

Phoenix hey, hey, hey, good evening.

Oliver Widger:

Hey.

Capn Tinsley:

Well, good, good evening. Hey, Well, good afternoon to you.

Capn Tinsley:

Yeah yeah, so we were just talking online. You got a lot of people here. Let me just I'm going to put some of these up on the screen. We got people coming out of the woodwork here. Look at this. I've been waiting to see this podcast. So excited for Oliver and his cat for the journey Supporting from Morville, mississippi. Hi Oliver from Tamra. We got. I've been waiting oh, I already read that one. Hello from Central California. We got. Hello from Honolulu. We got Susie Q from New York. Let me just read a couple of these and we'll start. Hello from Aloha, oregon. I guess you know where that is.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

Susie Q, new York. Let me start at the top. I want to acknowledge everybody before we start. Adrian Drew he was on earlier. Hey Drew, welcome back. I'm in Florida. Maybe I can lose to it tomorrow. Hopefully you're still here. We got Nancy White in Los Angeles. We got San Diego in the house, barbara and I think I Nancy White. Arlington Cole Welcome Cole. And we got Star Caps and John Richardson says let's go. Aloha de Houston, wow, here's a New York, someone from New York right there. Well, you got a lot of fans. Phoenix I mean Phoenix too. Oliver man, you got a lot of fans. So this is our third time, and this is amazing because we were just talking. When I first talked to you in November, you had 10,000 followers.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

Then when you left, you had 30?

Oliver Widger:

60, I think 60.

Capn Tinsley:

And now you got 2 million and probably more by now. What do you think? What is it about your story? Wait, niagara, is that? What am I reading that right?

Oliver Widger:

Canada.

Capn Tinsley:

Okay, is that Canada? Okay, okay, I'm going to try to put these up while you're talking. What do you think about your story that people have latched on to, because it's pretty incredible yeah, I don't know.

Oliver Widger:

I think, well, I think I don't know, I think the world's in a weird place and I think I think I don't know. I think everybody, like I, can speak from my own. There's my cat from my own, hey, phoenix. Yeah, I think I'll speak from my own feelings, I guess. But like me personally, I just feel like the world is constantly like just slowly likeling. You know me, and I feel like other people feel that way and and everybody's kind of like. A lot of people feel similar to how I did, where I was just at like this breaking point and but I like I just went all in and I went for it and uh, I think, you know, people have found like inspiration in that which is cool, you know, which is really cool. So I think that's, you know, part of it, you know, just lucky too, I don't know.

Capn Tinsley:

Okay. So Lisa Chamberlain says he gives hope to make a complete turnaround change rather than suffer in silence. Yep, that's true, yeah, I think. Yeah, there's a lot of people out there that are maybe not happy with their situation and you were brave enough to make the change. I'm just amazed at all these comments. I would love to host you in my Airbnb If you come to Maui. You got to do that. I've been to Maui. That's an awesome place. Okay, here's someone says Oliver's real humble and inspiring. Um, yeah, so yeah, it feel free to to, for you guys to to give, tell, tell us why he inspired you. So I did, I did, um, I've got some rapid fire questions. So here we go and I'm going to also be bringing these up there. Look at that. Are you seeing these?

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

He's unpretentious and likable. That's true. Oh, look at that. We all need to be taking lessons from all this. Being yourself awkward, as you might think and you are, think you are is what draws me to watch, plus the love for your animal. My dog is my child. Okay, I worked my tail off today. Okay, the dude is low key, the and he has no idea. There you go. There's your answers right there. Okay, first word that comes to mind when you hear Pacific Crossing, oh Wild.

Oliver Widger:

I don't know, wild Are you asking me yeah. Yeah, I'm asking you Crazy, I don't know it.

Capn Tinsley:

You asking me, yeah, yeah I'm asking you crazy, I don't know. It's cool, cool, okay, it's cool.

Oliver Widger:

Favorite moment at sea uh, I think when I was, when I was uh becalmed because you know you're in the middle of the pacific and it's like there's no wind and it's just a weird feeling I didn't feel normal, I didn't feel something about it, felt like just like well you know weird.

Oliver Widger:

And then that and then, like also, I've always like envisioned that moment when I get a flying fish that jumps on the boat. And so when I found my first flying fish, like that was like a milestone. It felt like a milestone for me.

Capn Tinsley:

I saw it and I was like a milestone. It felt like a milestone for me. I saw it.

Oliver Widger:

I was like awesome, you know, I thought that was super cool. Well, I know you were seasick quite a bit, which, um, did that get better? Yeah, I think a lot of it was self-induced, like all right, because there's I might. I was eating pretty poorly and I did some experimenting after I made a realization because I would like wake up and then I would drink like a coffee, and then I have like a chocolate bar or something, and um, and then I would be. You know, I would until I put like a reasonable amount of food in my body. I would start I would be feeling seasick. So after I changed my morning, like I stopped drinking coffee and then I would have a kind of a bigger meal for breakfast, and then I would feel okay, um, because I just think I was always on the like edge of being seasick, but I was just amplifying it by my mornings.

Oliver Widger:

So I figured that out, uh, after a while okay um worst weather you faced on the crossing it.

Oliver Widger:

It was the first week where I was like I got up to like 38 knots of wind and there were, the swells were pretty. You know, I hadn't sailed outside of a river before, so to me the swells were absolutely massive. So, and then that's when I had the rudder failure too. I was at the height of everything. It was the maximum amount of wind I had seen, the maximum amount of swell height, and uh, that was uh, it was terrifying. But I mean, it wasn't anything by any means any any. It was. You know, it was relatively sporty conditions, but it wasn't anything crazy by any means, you know, but it was. I mean, to me it looked, it was, it was crazy.

Capn Tinsley:

Um, jennifer Harlow's asking if you ever been on a long cruise, and I believe that answer is no.

Oliver Widger:

No, I've never been on a long cruise.

Capn Tinsley:

No if you have watched my former podcast that we did, it's like he hadn't been out of that past.

Oliver Widger:

I had sailed. Yeah, the furthest I had sailed was when I sailed from portland on the columbia to the, or to down the columbia to the oregon coast. Um, so that was 75 nautical miles. That's the furthest I had ever sailed and I had engine failure on the river oh, wow, um.

Capn Tinsley:

So I guess you know, when you had those big waves and you had the problem with the rudder, that was kind of a bummer, wasn't it?

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, it was absolutely terrifying, Like it was terrifying, like the rudder locked hard to starboard so it put me in my beam to the seas, the side of the boat to the seas and so, like I was, the boat was like going from like this to like this within like four second intervals.

Oliver Widger:

You know what I mean. It was like it was chaos and, like you know, the tow rail, the water was literally the. The lifelines were going like into the water, coming out of the water and then the other side would go into the water. So I was just like in my head the whole time. I was just like just stay clipped in and because it happened when I, I had two of the batons came out of my mainsail and then I also popped a car as well, one of the slugs that go up the track. I popped one of those out.

Oliver Widger:

I was in the middle of repairing that. That's why I was using my main rudder, not the hydrovane. It was worst timing, worst case scenario. Then, in the middle of preparing that, that's when I lost the rudder. My sails were flogging in the wind, it was chaos, everything, it was everything went downhill and then I went in the engine room to try and fix it and I got so sick in there. I think it was a combination of just like incredibly sick with like fear and then also like legitimately seasick, as well as these those two things. And I was in there trying to fix it and I got. I got so sick I had to come out prior to that.

Oliver Widger:

I had. I had. I had a big bucket filled with fishing lures and I poured it down the companionway and I used it as like a trove to try and bring the boat over and it didn't work. But so, yeah, I was in the engine compartment, got super sick and then I was like I need to come out and I need to rest. So I come walking down the companionway and I start stepping on fishing lures and uh, uh.

Oliver Widger:

You know that sucked. And then I just I got my quarter berth and I just laid there and like just looked up and just like lay there for like 15 minutes just to collect myself and to bring everything, everything slow, slow, everything down and um, and then I went back in.

Oliver Widger:

I didn't know how like it was. Like I, when I left, I was like there's nothing on this boat that can break that I won't be able to fix, so I've done so much to it. That was like the one thing I haven't. I hadn't touched the rudder quadrant or anything. I didn't know anything about rudder quad.

Capn Tinsley:

It was the one thing. Yeah, I know Now.

Oliver Widger:

I do.

Oliver Widger:

So I didn't know how to fix it and I think what happened was the bolts two of the bolts that tighten the cable came loose and it just loosened up the cables.

Oliver Widger:

The cable literally just fell off and so, and so I got in there and I tried to put it back on and it would keep falling off and then every once in a while the rudder would slam to the other side and then the it would go tight, and so I was really worried about getting my finger caught between the quadrant and the cable and my finger would just come off. So I used forever to get it on, and then I held the tension with my hand and then I I used like uh, whatever that's you know when you suture down the sail, when you drop the sail, I just did some line, basically, and I lashed it together to keep the tension and I just reinforced that, and then that I I left it like that for like just to keep that main rotor straight, and I left it like that for like three days, and then when I, when I got the comms is when I did the full repair on it right.

Capn Tinsley:

I know you didn't want to mess with it because in case it came loose again. It happened again.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, if it happened again it would be a nightmare. So I did it when it was calm and you could see too on my tracking when I was fixing it because the boat started going, you know, all over the place like it was just a little section where it was like just going crazy, but it was calm.

Capn Tinsley:

So it's good well, the trying to do something like that in those waves. Um, you know, even if I was changing a alternator belt in waves, yeah it's, it's not a good situation.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, I would instantly start feeling sick I had so much stuff I made a mistake of putting. I knew I shouldn't put a lot of stuff I don't have a lot of room but I knew I shouldn't put a lot of stuff in that uh, in that hatch because all of it would be in the way. But I had a lot of stuff in the hatch. I had to like pull really heavy stuff out and the post going crazy and I'm trying to lift these giant heavy things like I had to throw a bunch of stuff overboard just because I couldn't have the cockpit a mess, because I didn't want to slip on things in the cockpit and then fall if I'm trying to manage the sails. So I didn't throw any chemicals or anything, but it was like my broom. I had a mop in there. I threw my mop overboard just to get everything clear in the cockpit and I just started launching stuff overboard. And then where did you throw overboard? A mop, a broom?

Oliver Widger:

some like cleaning stuff and, uh, just some stuff like that and then the rest of it. I kind of just threw down the companionway just to keep everything clear in the cockpit, like in the cockpit I still had. I had my backup, my back, I had a drogue, a backup drogue with chain, and stuff in the cockpit and then I had my backup anchor with chain. So I left those two things in the cockpit, but for like two days. But aside from that I threw everything else either down here or overboard.

Capn Tinsley:

Tell us about the getting trapped in a locker. Oh, yeah, us about the getting trapped in a locker oh, yeah, getting trapped in a locker yeah, that was like literally every sailor's worst fear.

Oliver Widger:

I did it and uh that sounds like such a nightmare I was. It was so I go, it was like the next day or the day one or two days later, or I like went in to just check on the lashings or reinforce the lashings, and you know like when you go in the locker, you, you lash it off and like I always lash it off, even when I'm on shore.

Oliver Widger:

But like I, uh, I guess you know I, for some reason didn't I lash it off kind of lazily, apparently, and uh, you know I, I didn't, it didn't enter my mind. I was in swells, you know, and so I was in there and a massive swell came and the boat completely rocked to its beam and the locker slammed shut and then I could hear the latches go click.

Capn Tinsley:

And I was like oh my.

Oliver Widger:

God, and I go up to the hatch and I hit it and it goes click, and I was like, oh my, I didn't have my phone with me either. I left my phone in here and uh I was like I am legitimately stuck and I had, um a wrench in there with me.

Oliver Widger:

Um, fortunately, and between the like the last, there was like a little gap, um, and I just put the wrench between the gap and I just pried it and then I blew out the hinges and it popped open. Um, so I still have to fix those, but uh, that, yeah, that was crazy.

Capn Tinsley:

You know, mostly I've, I've always worried about them, cutting your finger off when those things fall you know when they close, but I had never thought about getting trapped in one until you said that I'm so glad that you were able to get out. That is super scary, I think I always would have figured it out.

Oliver Widger:

You know, I don't know.

Capn Tinsley:

You weren't planning on staying in there.

Oliver Widger:

No no way.

Capn Tinsley:

Okay, so um more stressful big C's or 2 million followers Um they're both, but they're both pretty stressful.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, they're both pretty stressful, like I don't know I, I it's. It's like sitting there waiting for something to break, which is what was like the most stressful, like you know, because the boat would make such insane noises. You know that, like I had never heard this boat make and like the boat was making like different noises every day, and so every time a different noise came up, I'd be like oh no, and like, because it was in the height when I had that rudder failure, so like that night and I would just lash it off that night, I was like just laying there like waiting for it to like something to go just wrong, because at night it would be the. I didn't have anything go wrong at night, which which is good, but that would have been much more difficult to deal with at night, you know.

Oliver Widger:

So just sitting there waiting for things to fail was would play with my mind a bit.

Capn Tinsley:

Well, I um, I saw your video and somebody commented in here way back here somewhere there's so many comments the same thing when you said um, what does it feel when people ask you what does it feel like to be famous? And you're like the pacific doesn't care?

Oliver Widger:

oh yeah it doesn't. Yeah, no, like when I was, I didn't think about it at all when I was, really, when I was, when I was crossing, because, just because, like, uh, that, yeah, that environment, none of it matters, you know, when you're there, like none of it mattered. So I I just have to kept telling myself, like keeping myself centered, focused on what is actually happening, because it's so easy to get lost in in the.

Oliver Widger:

You know, I went viral and like pay attention to that and I just I really tried my best to just stay centered and stay in reality and the reality was I was in the middle of the pacific ocean and yeah, it does not care, doesn't care at all what's going on.

Capn Tinsley:

So um, this one says that uh Vala city. I hope I'm saying that. The day you reached Hawaii, did you expect anything close to what you experienced? It was pretty incredible.

Oliver Widger:

No, I mean when I left, it was basically like no one knew about me. And uh, uh so like uh, so like yeah, no, not at all.

Capn Tinsley:

I felt like it sailed through a wormhole and arrived into a different universe I mean the coast guard, and then the the guy, um, the guy from the marina was out there too, leading yeah there was a bunch of boats, the canoes. I was all the canoes I was gonna smoke a canoe, like.

Oliver Widger:

I was like how? Like when I started coming in, I was like, oh, we, oh. I'm not done yet I have to get there and not run into a kayak, because how bad would that be?

Capn Tinsley:

I'm sure they had their eye on you, but remember when you left you were worried about pulling up to the dock.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, I didn't know what dock I was going to go to. I didn't know what dock I was gonna go to.

Capn Tinsley:

I didn't know what marina but you had mentioned that when you said you told the story about your first date with this girl and you, you, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and uh, it worked out.

Oliver Widger:

They knew about that because they, the coast guard, came up to my boat and they're like uh, we're gonna put a, um, a captain on your boat to to bring it in and I was like there's no way I'm I'm letting somebody take my kidding. No, yeah, I wasn't the, I think it was. Uh, the marina wanted to, just because I think they watched that video and they were a little nervous about it that I was gonna start smoking boats on the way, in which I've never hit boats before. But hey, Phoenix.

Capn Tinsley:

Well, yeah, I mean you had a nice side tie situation, that was perfect.

Oliver Widger:

Oh yeah, it was the perfect landing. If I had to go into like a finger slip it would have been a different story, with a big tide and everything. Yeah, I'm going to bring this.

Capn Tinsley:

Amy says hi, y'all Thank. Thank you for this, oliver, you're such an inspiration to many. I was so happy to have found you before the journey started. Your age is a huge. Your age is a huge inspiration for bringing us along. I'm not sure if that's a typo. Um, okay, so let's see. Uh biggest surprise that about going viral um, biggest surprise about going.

Oliver Widger:

I mean just that in and of itself was a surprise skill on viral, but biggest surprise is the the absolute overwhelming uh love from everybody. Like that's been so cool because you know, like I'm sure I've got some trolls and stuff and like you said you saw, so I haven't seen any of it. Like it's like the overwhelming love from everybody like totally drowns out any sort of trolling and I know they're out there, but like well, the good thing is everybody jumps on the troll, so you don't have to do anything.

Oliver Widger:

No, it's it, it's. I feel incredibly fortunate and I definitely, I definitely have a heavy amount of like imposter syndrome with the whole thing, especially within, like the sailing community too, because I haven't. There's so many people that have done so much cooler things than I have. I haven't done anything like actually, so many people have sailed from the west coast to Hawaii. It's not like I've done anything special. Um, so that is weird to deal with. You know, coming into hawaii and like getting greeted by like the mayor and like, which is I'm credibly thankful for, but you know, it's it feel I feel guilty in a way, for some reason you know?

Capn Tinsley:

I mean, I don't know, you feel, I don't know, I don't know.

Oliver Widger:

I just feel I don't know.

Capn Tinsley:

Well, I mean, there's a reason for it and so just accept it. These people you didn't you know, force them to send you all this love that I'm looking at right now on all these comments. So it just happened and it's organic and I think it's awesome. Okay, does Phoenix know she's famous?

Oliver Widger:

I don't know I think she's just living in her own world. She knows, I give her lots more kisses from everybody, because everybody wants me to kiss my cat. So I. I give her so much love, I think it I mean it does irritate her, and but yeah, I don't know. She is the most famous cat, though, which is really good, I would say so.

Capn Tinsley:

She's the most famous cat. All right, yeah. What was some in the package that the plane dropped?

Oliver Widger:

It was was some letters. She's going to jump up here and hit the keyboard.

Capn Tinsley:

That's okay, bring her up.

Oliver Widger:

If I suddenly disappear, it's because she hit the keyboard, but I'll come back.

Capn Tinsley:

Okay, we'll be here.

Oliver Widger:

What was I going to say? What were we talking about?

Capn Tinsley:

What was in the package that the plane dropped?

Oliver Widger:

Oh, it was some letters that these girls of the pilots wrote, which is really cool, and then some snacks, because I had completely ran out of snacks.

Oliver Widger:

And then two right before they left, they'd gotten two like Jersey Mike sandwiches, which was awesome. They had like fresh tomatoes and stuff in there and I was literally eating Like I wasn't even cooking the cans of like moldy soup, I was just cracking the lids and drinking it, which is disgusting, and so I was really struggling for food. So when I ate those, I was really struggling for food. So when I when I ate those, I was like awesome.

Oliver Widger:

So where did the plane come from? Uh, from Hawaii. And uh, it was elf cosmetics, like put it all together. Um, so they did all the work on on getting it and stuff and um, uh, yeah, I think it flew out of Maui. The plane plane, did you know it was? Coming yeah, they gave me a heads up, okay, because you said because I remember the video.

Capn Tinsley:

You said oh, they're opening the door. Yeah, oh, we dropped something yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oliver Widger:

I mean, that was the only thing content thing that I did was like I played into it a bit okay just because it funny. You know it was cool, it was a cool thing.

Capn Tinsley:

Oh your videos were hilarious. I mean, you've got a dry humor that I really appreciate. Uh, uh, Phoenix wants to be on the show. That was so awesome. Oh, you'll have to read all these eight later. I'm a 58 year old Canadian who's never been on a sailboat and I teared up watching you arrive. I love that you took this on. Phoenix has things to say. Did Phoenix have any weird habits on the boat?

Oliver Widger:

No, she became just a completely normal cat after the first two days. It was funny to watch her. She liked to sit in this chair because this chair has two arms on it so she could sit in here and the boat could rock. It was like her lee cloth was like this chair. She really liked the chair because she could stay in one place and just let the boat, rock her.

Oliver Widger:

She became like a walking gimbal, like it was. She got around the boat so much better than me, like she just walk gimbal her way around the boat, which is really cool well, I, and I asked this for my own purse because I wanted to sail with my cats.

Capn Tinsley:

What did you do about litter?

Oliver Widger:

I, I just did, I just have my regular litter box and then I, I, I would put the litter in the trash, and then, when my trash would just get, then I, I, I would put the litter in the trash, and then, when my trash would just get full, I, I just put it in the engine, in the, you know, the engine locker, the engine room. So that's where I put all my, my trash and I, I just, I didn't throw anything like. Legally you can throw everything overboard, um other than plastic but.

Oliver Widger:

I I didn't do that just because, like what, it would feel weird. And then also I like I'm not like super superstitious or anything, but it felt like that's, if you're gonna piss off an ocean, that's one way to do it, you know. So I just didn't want to, I don't want to take any chances. So I kept all my trash on board and threw it all away when I got here okay, I was uh, did you?

Oliver Widger:

you have to carry a lot of litter oh yeah, I had like two big bags of litter that I brought and two big bags of food. So someone said that I got her more treats than I got myself snacks. She was eating well the entire time where I was suffering.

Capn Tinsley:

Jennifer said it was a good question that I asked uh, let's see. Jennifer said it was a good question that I asked Um, and it's nice, see ethic, all right, um, biggest thing you missed while at sea I think you're going to say food.

Oliver Widger:

Oh well, let's see. Yeah, food Like. When I got here, I got I really like steaks and I, over the last year, I haven't, I literally haven't eaten anything but rice, beans and like mac and cheese to save money. And um, I, I, for the first half of the passage, I've been eating better than I had been eating over the past year, but I, I promise I just I ate through all of the good food immediately because I couldn't help myself. And uh, because it's sitting in these hammocks just dangling above my head and I'm watching this, these, you know, cringles cans in these hammocks like a carrot in front of our face and uh, so, but yeah, food like. So I, yeah, I hadn't. I had this realization when I I was like five days out, I was like I haven't eaten. I'm the first thing I'm gonna do when I get there is have a steak, and, and so that's what I did. I got here and I had like the craziest, most amazing steak of all time.

Capn Tinsley:

So you know it's cool Right there at the marina.

Oliver Widger:

No, we went to. It was close, but we went to this like a steak place.

Capn Tinsley:

Was that your brother?

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, one of my brothers and his girlfriend, and then basically, two of my friends okay, so solo sailing love it or hate it so I love it. I I don't think I would ever want to sail with really anyone else. I like to be you know I I'm.

Oliver Widger:

I think that would be hard to get along with, you know, in general in a tight place. So like I like to be in my own, I do things my own way and I do think my own system. That probably doesn't make sense to most people but like to me, like it's my own rhythm, my own way and I like that, you know, because like it'd be hard to say with somebody you know it would be, it'd be hard to sail with somebody you know it would be, it'd be difficult.

Oliver Widger:

And I like yeah, like I'm okay with myself you know alone.

Oliver Widger:

And for a long period of time. Like I learned that over the over the year of doing, of getting prepared for the crossing, that's how I knew I was going to be able to like what's an extra 25 days of being alone. I spent a year completely isolated, completely alone, doing nothing but social media at the boat and blurting out of sail and working on the boat for like seven days a week, 10 hours a day. That's all I did and uh, too, like the extreme. So I knew I would be, I would have been fine and um, yeah, I think I just prefer going on my own okay, um, first thing you did when you hit waikiki marina, I saw your feet hit the, hit, the dock the first thing I did was, oh yeah, the first.

Oliver Widger:

The first day was weird. The first day was, uh, after the first day it was fine, but the first day, like I said, the first thing I did was get off, got the officials on board for my cat to get her signed off. That went fine, and then I went, and then I had like an hour to go and shower before like the event started, and so I we just went to a hotel and I was like walking down the hallways and like I would like fall, I have to hold myself up on the the hallway. And then, um yeah, I took a shower and that was bliss and then, and then came back here and did that whole thing yeah, we were talking about something offline and I was going to ask you about it.

Capn Tinsley:

I'll think of it again. You just alluded to it. Now I can't think of what it is. One piece of gear you couldn't live without um.

Oliver Widger:

Oh, the hydro pain yeah, like it's a hydropneumatic failed. I mean, if the hydropneumatic failed, that rudder situation would have been so much worse. And um, I tried to fail on me, but but yeah, the hydrovane, the self-steering hydrovane, was, was and the, the jack, my jack lines. I really like the harness that I got because it had two levels to it, so like one tether was really long and the other one was very short so I could like for the short one.

Oliver Widger:

I would use the short one when I was moving forward along the side so if I did fall over, I wouldn't actually really fall over, I would. My feet would be in the water, but I would still be clipped because, you know, if it's too long you get just dragged in the water yeah, and so it's hard to pull yourself back up, yeah, and I would use the short one to move forward and then long one to clip on the deck.

Oliver Widger:

Um, so, even so, from up there, with a long one I could. If I went all the way back I wouldn't go over the boat. So I I really like that system just because it would seem like a safe. You know, the way I had my jack line set up seemed pretty. At all times I was pretty safe I.

Capn Tinsley:

I didn't see the jack lines, but I'm glad to hear that you have them.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

Yeah, okay, here's a pretty good question what's the first place in the islands you want to explore once you fix whatever you need to fix?

Oliver Widger:

I want to. I don't really. I have to like look into it. I didn't really even know which island was Oahu for sure until I was like two-thirds of the way here and uh, I, uh, I love kawaii, kawaii is my favorite. I like to explore all the islands at first.

Oliver Widger:

I think I'm gonna explore the anchorages and stuff here um and uh, like that's just being in a cool anchorage with like crystal blue water where you could see your anchor would be such a cool. I've never experienced that before, so that'd be really cool. So I'm excited, really excited for that. But Panda Kelly could you do it without Internet access uh, yeah, I think so in a way, I feel like it like like I felt guilty about having the starlink because like I felt like it pulled away from the experience.

Oliver Widger:

Like you all the my heroes and the people that you you hear about that have that, have done big crossings and stuff much bigger than mine and you know they never had internet or anything like that and like they talk about their experience in a way to where it's, because if you don't have internet, I feel like you'd be so in tune with everything and like borderline going insane. And I feel like I did miss out on that a bit, uh, because of Starlink. So I did feel guilty about having it and I would like to do a passage in the future without it, just to get the full.

Capn Tinsley:

You know just being out there with just the sounds and the boat and, like you know, just being all in you know I interviewed Tanya Abbey who crossed, who went around the world in the eighties, before GPS, and she got in the Pacific and didn't have a motor either. But she talked about in her book how she would just like for 30 days she was going across the Pacific and how she was just so in the moment.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

Whatever she was doing stirring soup, she was in the moment.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

And I read that and I never forgot it and I've never experienced that Because of all the social media and everything, all the distractions and everything.

Oliver Widger:

So I feel like, yeah, part of the social media and stuff. Like I wasn't really scrolling a lot on social media because I was spent a lot of time editing the videos, but I did learn that I think I'm a relatively lazy sailor and I think the social media having that available didn't help um with with that and uh, what do you?

Capn Tinsley:

mean like what do you mean I?

Oliver Widger:

don't know I'm. I'm relatively lazy in general, depending on you know what I mean. Like there's some times where I was like where I should fix that or I should probably reduce some of the sale, but it's probably fine Stuff like that.

Capn Tinsley:

I love that.

Oliver Widger:

Jennifer, and cooking. Sometimes too, I had an issue with my oven too. I didn't really want to. I had an issue with my oven too. That didn't help because I fell and I hit my oven and it bent it and so anytime it would swing it would get stuck in a position and then, as the boat comes back over, it would release really quickly. So like it was so frustrating.

Capn Tinsley:

You don't have a lock for that. No, I do, I do, but it was so frustrating. Like you, don't have a lock for that.

Oliver Widger:

There's not the lock I do, I do.

Oliver Widger:

But it was when I was cooking. You know, if I was cooking and I had boiling hot water on, I needed a gimbal going and then a gimbal gets stuck and then release immediately and boiling water would go everywhere. And that was really frustrating. Like that made me so angry and so I got like a screwdriver. I tried to pry it back. I fixed it a little bit, but it's still doing it. So I still gotta figure it out and fix it. But that was very frustrating. I don't know how we got there with that, but here you go um, okay, most underrated piece of boat advice you got most underrated piece of boat advice I got um

Oliver Widger:

uh, I think from it was the advice that like saved the whole journey. I think was from uh, uh, jerome rant, uh, yeah, jerome, and um, he told because I went on his podcast before I left. And uh, he was like because I I no one really told me this and I I don't have it all you know, I say, like I watched youtube to learn how to sail I did in the beginning. I was so busy I never watched YouTube. I should have learned more, but I never watched. I was just so busy all the time. Then I went on his podcast and he told me the best piece of advice ever. He was just like do your daily rounds, check everything, check every little thing.

Capn Tinsley:

I knew you were going to say that.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, and.

Capn Tinsley:

I did.

Oliver Widger:

I did. It was like every other day I found something and I almost I I was one tack away from having like rigging failure because the pin that goes on like the chain buckle or that you know that had to come off, that had to come out. And I saw that I was like holy cow. You know that would have been bad, so yeah, that would have been bad.

Oliver Widger:

That was a really good piece of advice, underrated, I guess. Maybe to a sailor it's common knowledge, but to me it was everything, because I wasn't going to do that.

Capn Tinsley:

Amanda says do you have a lot of women wanting to join you?

Oliver Widger:

I don't know. I mean I don't know, no, I haven't. I haven't like looked into it, just because, like I don't, I don't know, it's all I I, it's all I guess, for lack of better words and stuff, it's just a distraction.

Oliver Widger:

You know what I mean. Like it's I don't, I don't get, I can't get, I can't do both. I can't have like a real relationship and like, do this, I don't think, because they're both very consuming things. So I'm not looking, I'm not, but I'm also not like not looking, I'll just, I'm just going with the flow and if something comes and it works, and it works. This is awkward, and here we are being awkward.

Capn Tinsley:

It could happen that the right sailor girl comes along. So you never know. Yeah, here's another question from Susie. Do you have a favorite phrase from the trip? So many good Oliverisms, as someone called them, I don't remember it.

Oliver Widger:

They just kind of just come like I like in my head. I'm like a poet, but the words never come out correctly. So I just just feel weird I just said words out my mouth and uh, and sometimes funny things come out. So that's how, yeah, it's funny. On All my post people will quote the things that I say and I don't realize how weird the thing is. I said until people quote it Like, oh yeah, it's a funny thing to say. You know, it's funny.

Capn Tinsley:

Is this one of them. I'm wearing shorts for logistical reasons.

Oliver Widger:

This is my favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was when I took the shower.

Capn Tinsley:

Oh yeah, I remember that one. Let's see, I've written down all of her isms because they were great. These are funny, so I know everybody's asking you what is next. I think we kind of covered that.

Oliver Widger:

Well, next is I'm going to spend some time on the island. I'm in no rush to sail around the world. If I wanted to go to French Polynesia, I would have to be ready within three months for the window, because then hurricane season really kicks off, or what do they call it? They call it something else here. Then hurricane season really kicks or kicks off, or what do they call it, they call it something else here. But, uh, hurricane season kicks off, cyclone season. They say um, yeah and um, so I, uh, I don't want to be in any. I'm not in any sort of rush like I've spent. I've worked so hard to get here for the last year. I'm going to enjoy some time here and explore the islands and sail around and just have a, you know, just enjoy my myself. And then, uh, it looks like French Polynesia. I'll go, I'll leave in like March around that time, and um, so yeah, I'm in no rush to sail around the world, but I am going to sail around the world.

Oliver Widger:

But yeah, I think it's important to kind of just enjoy. You know, I've spent like all winter in oregon with snowing and like my hands were hurt so much and the boat was just everything was so miserable for a year, um, and now I I'm in like paradise. So it's like I'm just, I'm in no rush and uh, but I'm really excited because I do want to, like I have this like craving to go back out onto the ocean.

Capn Tinsley:

Wow, really yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

Oliver Widger:

It was like a sat, like coming, arriving, I was like happy to arrive, but it was also like I don't know. It felt like um, I felt like it's sad was also like I don't know. It felt like um, I felt like it's sad, like I I don't know. I was like because I enjoyed being out there and like nothing really mattered. All that mattered was just being out there and I was just.

Oliver Widger:

You know, I was just out there and I don't know I felt sad, like there's, uh, like the next day when I was on the boat, I like came out the hatch or the you know of the companionway and I like looked around and like I was like surprised, surprised that I saw like land you know what I mean, like when I was here at the marina, because you still it takes like 20 days or whatever to develop a habit, so I was really in tune of being out there. And so, yeah, when I came out the hatch and I saw like the doc that I'm on, I was like I thought you were going to say you saw there were people trying to take your picture.

Capn Tinsley:

No, no, I've had that a couple of times.

Oliver Widger:

But yeah, I do want to. I have this immediate like craving to just go back out for sure.

Capn Tinsley:

Yeah, I've heard that before. When people do like an around the world or nonstop, or it's almost overwhelming with all the people.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

You get used to being alone and it's just a lot of stimulation.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

Yeah, yeah.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

And it took 25 days 25.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, I think I'm the only person to do it without a whisker pole. I did a whole lot of downwind sailing without a whisker pole and that sucked. I will never do that again. And just because when I left, I couldn't afford one, and so I was like you know and there's so many other things that I would have liked to have done but I was already way over budget, a bunch of money in debt and I was like I'm just going without, I'm just going, I'm just gonna go without a whisker full and I'll deal with it. And uh, so my, my jib didn't anything the whole time. I just basically kept it to keep it under control. I kept it like close hold, like that's. I was super self-conscious about filming anything with, like the sails, because the sail, the sails were not. You know, people would have been like where are you going?

Capn Tinsley:

because they you know it didn't look like I was sailing downwind, but I was did somebody give you a whisker pole already? No, I still have to get one I just figured somebody would walk up and give you one um, all right, uh, what happened to your gofundme? We can't find it anymore to walk up and give you one. Yeah, alright. What happened to your GoFundMe? We can't find it anymore, lisa.

Oliver Widger:

I took it down. Everyone's been so incredibly kind and donated so much already. I took it down. I mean yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

What a guy. Alright, hold on on. I'm so distracted by all these a bit off topic. You might not care, but you've seen the fake Facebook pages posting all your videos. Is there any way to shut them down?

Oliver Widger:

they blocked those Facebook pages, blocked me. So it's up to you guys to just report them, just if everybody goes report those. Well, they blocked those Facebook pages, blocked me, so it's up to you guys to just report. Report them. Just if everybody goes report those fake, I did. My brother reached out and told me that he had someone. One of the Facebook pages pages is is. It's like asking people for money.

Capn Tinsley:

Oh, I got something. I got something that as because he saw that we were friends or you had been on here- yeah. And they were asking me to contribute crypto.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, stay away.

Capn Tinsley:

Yeah.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

I knew that was fake.

Oliver Widger:

So I'm never going to ask you guys or anybody for money and stuff or anything like that. So if you see a fake account, just report it.

Capn Tinsley:

Well, ingrid says put it back your GoFundMe. So Barbara must have gotten that too about the crypto. Let's see, let's see. Biggest surprise when you made landfall, I guess it was the greeting right.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

Yeah.

Oliver Widger:

Well, I mean, yeah, it was crazy, yeah, I didn't expect that, and you know like I didn't really have a comprehension of like how many people were watching.

Oliver Widger:

I didn't. I try not to pay too much like attention to it. That's why, like making the videos now is really tough, because everybody I see like I will watch my I didn't. I try not to pay too much like attention to it. That's what. Like making the videos now is really tough because everybody I see like watches my stuff. So it like kind of gets in my head a bit because out there I was just like you get a little weird when you're crossing an ocean, when you're alone. It's like I just leaned into that weirdness and just I just used it in the videos and I didn't have an immediate. Now if I post, I post a video, I have an immediate, it seems I go up there. So I love the video you just posted and it like plays with me a little bit. So I have to like I'm still like trying to navigate through that and just so I can be, cause I do want to. You know my goal is just to be myself and you know I'm I'm weird.

Capn Tinsley:

So you know a little quirky, so I try and lean into it. I had no idea that this was going to be the the reception that you got, and I was even thinking about it. I told a friend why don't we just go to Hawaii? It's been a while since I've been there. Let's let's greet them and do an interview.

Capn Tinsley:

I would have had to stand in line. Wow, I was. I was thinking, oh, let's go out and see, but all right. So something about pet aid. So people were worried about the kitty. Someone said something about a documentary.

Oliver Widger:

Yes, my brother is a uh, uh like a filmmaker and so he, I think like seven years ago, moved to the uk that's where my mom is as well um, and because he got accepted to like this really like big film school um, and so he graduated like top of the class from there and that's what he does is make. He specializes primarily in like nature, documentaries and stuff, but he like, if my brother knows me so well and if someone's gonna make like, so he's gonna make the YouTube video that I just I've just mailed him that like the sb cards without because I took, I also recorded at the same time everything on my dga camera for youtube format, so like horizontal, and so he's gonna put it all together and oh man, that's nice, he's gonna do it for you yeah, um.

Oliver Widger:

So yeah, it's really cool. It's really cool. That's my brother, that too, and uh, and then once I do a complete, so all of my footage and film and stuff I'll just always send to him for YouTube, and once I complete a full circumnavigation, he's going to make a like a really cool, you know, film or something.

Capn Tinsley:

You are so lucky to have that I know.

Oliver Widger:

I know You're blessed. I'm getting good at the social media stuff, but the youtube stuff I'm so bad at, so I just kind of just my youtube stuff is pretty, just raw but oh, your videos are great I mean all the editing you do, and everything um what's his name, should we? Follow him yeah uh, yeah, yeah, his name is. His name is marcusger, so I think that's his handle On Instagram or what. Instagram.

Capn Tinsley:

Marcus M-A-R-C-U-S-W-I-G-E-R.

Oliver Widger:

D-G-E-R.

Capn Tinsley:

D-G-E-R. So it's just at, marcus Widger.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, I think so. I'm pretty sure it's what it is.

Capn Tinsley:

Is that it there, marcus Widger? Yeah, I think so, I'm pretty sure Is that it, there's the brother, so we have to follow him because we might see some.

Oliver Widger:

Some footage. Well, I'll let you guys know when it all obviously it'll go out, it'll go on my youtube and and you know, announcing when it's all put together and stuff. Okay, so what? You're so blessed to have a cool brother, that's for sure. What?

Capn Tinsley:

is your favorite kind? I'll announce it when it's all put together and stuff. Okay, so, um, you're so blessed to have a cool brother, that's for sure. What is your favorite kind of? Oh no, no, the one I wanted was I'm wearing the shirt he's selling to fund the documentary.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, so he has to in order to do it, like he has to take time off work, like you can't be working, so I so I came up with the idea for him to design like a cool, like a Britney shirt, and uh, just to help him not work while he's putting it together oh, did so.

Capn Tinsley:

He's not working, he already he won't.

Oliver Widger:

He won't. He is right now, but he won't. He it's not, he won't be working, he won't be looking for work. It's like contract work, basically okay works with it. So he won't be, he'll be not getting any money.

Capn Tinsley:

So, um, yeah, to put it together so he can take the time to put it together okay, so I finished my rapid fire ones, but I would like to know um your plan like, uh, are you you're planning to haul out the boat?

Oliver Widger:

yeah, I'm probably gonna. Oh, I have to replace the standing rigging, um, and then, uh, I should just replace everything to do with the rudder and the quadrant, everything in there, um, and then I've just got, so I've got to do a new rethink because I've got the in boom rethink system and, uh, that's all. The whole thing is just a disaster, like if I had lost I almost chafed one of my lines through and if I had lost the line to go to try and it'd be impossible to to replace the line. If you don't have a tail, you have to take the boom off and take the riveted caps off, and even after you've taken the boom off, it's still like a process. So I want to put all of the rethink stuff external, um, on the boom or on the mask, I'm not sure, but I do need to change that so when you had said before you left that you were thinking about doing that yourself, but you're hopefully going to get a rigger now oh, I don't know.

Oliver Widger:

I like the idea of still doing everything myself. It's still the reason I know um, it's the only reason that gave me. It's the only reason I know um, uh, it's the only reason that gave me confidence. It's the only thing that gave me confidence when I was crossing that there's like anything could go wrong and I'm pretty sure I can fix it. You know what I mean. So, because I've done all this work myself, all of that gave me that, that that gave me the confidence and and, and that I learned a lot about the boat by doing that. So, like I don't know, I'll probably have, you know, like I don't know, I'll probably have at least the guidance of, like a professional like rigger.

Oliver Widger:

But I would like to do it all myself because I'd like to know exactly how it all works and stuff you know.

Capn Tinsley:

I echo the statements made. What does Oliver have planned for his health Should someone something happen with his condition while on the water? That's a good. It's a good question.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, I had no plan. I'm just going all in riding it until I can't.

Capn Tinsley:

Well, you have a plan for Phoenix.

Oliver Widger:

Well, I mean, I have a short team, so like if something did happen, um, uh, you'd be able to see my route change. You know things would. It'd be obvious.

Capn Tinsley:

I was checking in every six hours, right um to just to tell everyone I was okay, so uh they would know, you know, so somebody would ideally come rescue my cat okay, so, um, I don't know if you want to say it on here, but you already have a place to haul out the boat, is it? Is it that place? I think there's only one.

Oliver Widger:

I think there's only one place. I can't remember the name of the place, but I think there's only like one place. So I have to set it up because it is apparently a long time.

Capn Tinsley:

It's like a long waiting list, so I do have to set that up soon, okay, and then you'll be able to stay at a hotel with your cat.

Oliver Widger:

No, I'd stay on the boat, Like I did the last time. If it's allowed I'm sure it's allowed I would stay on the boat with Molly.

Capn Tinsley:

Well, yeah, some places, when you haul out, they don't let you, but that'd be great.

Oliver Widger:

I'd say I'm working around the clock. Well, yeah, some places when you haul out, they don't let you. But that'd be great, you, maybe you could get.

Capn Tinsley:

I'd say I'm working around the clock, okay, and so you're going to get all new rigging, okay, well, I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear it because I was a little worried about the rigging.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, yeah, I was too. It was the one thing that was constantly on my mind.

Capn Tinsley:

One of the things you said in the podcast last time before you left was the only thing I've had corners on. Yeah.

Oliver Widger:

I was like uh-oh.

Capn Tinsley:

But, it worked out.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, it worked out, not recommended. You're going to cross motion, just replace the rigging. I mean I had it looked over by somebody I trusted and somebody who built boats, and he looked it over and was like, yeah, it should be fine. I was like, all right, I'll tell you. Yeah.

Capn Tinsley:

So, star Caps, thank you for doing this live interview, oliver. I know it's probably outside of your comfort zone, but we really appreciate you doing this interview, oliver, I know it's probably outside of your comfort zone, but we really appreciate you doing this. You know this is the third time he's been on here and he's always done really well and and it's the third time he's on Jerome's, which I need to get Jerome. If Jerome's watching, I want to talk to Jerome yeah, he's a good guy your quirkiness is the best.

Capn Tinsley:

Don't ever change, kiddo, do you like all these comments? Yeah, it's, yeah, and this is the best, don't ever change kiddo.

Oliver Widger:

Do you like all these comments? Yeah, yeah, it's cool. I don't know.

Capn Tinsley:

I want to know what your plan is next. When are you going to travel to, or do you not know yet? We kind of covered that.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, french Polynesia. Alright, is there anything else you want to say to all your fans?

Capn Tinsley:

We got a lot of people watching. Yeah, french Polynesia, all right. Well, is there anything else you want to say to all your fans? We got a lot of people watching.

Oliver Widger:

It's not all of them, but it's a lot of them Thanks, thanks for the support and thanks for being here and thanks for the love. Yeah, so you know, stay tuned.

Capn Tinsley:

Yeah, okay.

Oliver Widger:

Well, I'm just going gonna explore the island and, uh, I really want to get fun again and go some anchorages, so I think I'm going to start working towards that pretty soon.

Capn Tinsley:

But well, I, I, I love hawaii. I've probably been there 15, 20 times and um, I love the culture there, I love the whole vibe there. And someone says in here that was a Hawaiian welcome, and I believe that.

Oliver Widger:

Yeah, that's cool, yeah, that's really cool.

Capn Tinsley:

The spirit of Aloha and you're perfect there, yeah, okay. Well, I'm not going to take up any more of your time. I want to say thank you for coming on here. You're a big star now and you came on the Salty Podcast and I do appreciate that.

Oliver Widger:

Of course I like to keep my world small and you and Jerome had me on your podcast before I had any follows. I'll always come back on.

Capn Tinsley:

A lot of my friends, after you were on my podcast, were following you. Every time I would talk to them. We'd talk, and then, oh, by the way, did you see Oliver's video? And I was like, no, I didn't see it. Tell me what happened. One of my friends told me about the GoFundMe and I was like, oh, my goodness, wow, that's awesome. So, yeah, don't feel bad about that, oliver, you always make my day aloha, all right, well, go get some rest, enjoy the rest of your day. I do appreciate you coming on. I will talk to you again soon cool.

Oliver Widger:

Thank you again for having me.

Capn Tinsley:

It's good talk all right, we'll talk again soon. That Is that salty Abandoned Out.

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